I just posted a question about this two days ago. My mom said that apostacy was the unforgiveable sin. Then I asked her if someone was an apostate, then decided it WAS the "TRUTH" what would happen? She said- Jehovah is a loving god & would forgive then & welcome them back. "So it isn't the unforgiveable sin?" She couldn't answer it- said she'd research it. Course, the research she does is all in the WTS literature...........
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Apostasy Unforgivable?
by professor indo witnesses teach that apostasy is an unforgivable sin?.
i was taught this by my parents.
but, i am wondering if this is a jw doctine.
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SEX SEX SEX SEX & MORE SEX
by Perfection Seeker inok, now that i have your attention................................... it seems like most of the witnesses i know, and who have posted here, say their parents kept them in the dark about sex.
do you agree?
my parents never discussed it at all- in fact- if they did- or saw a love scene on tv- my mom would always say "thats disgusting' (yeah, right mom) .
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Peace- you were lucky. My mom signed a sheet that said I was NOT to attend sex ed classes. GET REAL! What exactly were (ARE) they afraid of?!?! They want children by age 5 to know the books of the bible, know the ten commandments, know gods qualities, but at age 20- we didn't need to know about sex? I still think the phrase "going postal" should be change to "Going JW" cause alot of witnesses & exwitnesses have so much bitter, hard feelings, makes you want to EXPLODE!
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SEX SEX SEX SEX & MORE SEX
by Perfection Seeker inok, now that i have your attention................................... it seems like most of the witnesses i know, and who have posted here, say their parents kept them in the dark about sex.
do you agree?
my parents never discussed it at all- in fact- if they did- or saw a love scene on tv- my mom would always say "thats disgusting' (yeah, right mom) .
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OK, now that I have your attention..................................
It seems like most of the witnesses I know, and who have posted here, say their parents kept them in the dark about sex. Do you agree? My parents never discussed it at all- in fact- if they did- or saw a love scene on tv- my mom would always say "Thats disgusting' (Yeah, right mom)
My mom never even explained periods, nothing!
So, my question is this: Why wouldn't witness parents want their children informed? Is being naive a cure for sexual impulses? I posted something on here once about funny honeymoon stories- seems like ALOT of couples don't have a clue as to what should or will happen. I just wonder if the "good" parents- you know- the perfect elders teach their children about sex, what happens, etc- or if everyone is clueless?
Funny story- the first time I was with my husband he said "Can you cum this way?" I was thinking he meant COME as in move- so I moved. (HA HA- funny know) I was sexually retarded. I think they want you to be!!!!!!!!!!!
Most "worldy" parents I know EXPLAIN things to their children- like what happens during puberty, what the natural urges are, what to do, what happens when you DO start having sex, etc.
Any comments fellow "Sexually retarded" witness children?
P.S. I've made up for lost time :-)~~~~~~~~~ I could teach a class or two now :-)
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My B/F told me he's a J/W after months of dating!
by Funky_Diva_53_2000 inhi, i'm 17 and i've just recently become a member of this website and i want you to know what has happened to me over the past months.back in sep/oct 2001 i started chatting to a 20 year old bloke via the internet and we developed a great friendship over the net.we would talk online for ages,text and phone each other loads,we sent each other photos of ourselves and he would often put his webcam on for me to see.before i knew it he played a great part in my everyday life...and i spent so much time chatting to him that my college work suffered a lot & i wasn't doing my coursework (i eventually got told to leave as i hadn't done loads of the assignments and stuff & had fallen behind).
after about 6 months we arranged to meet up (i made sure my parents were at home coz i know it's dodgy to meet people from the internet).anyway,he came round my house one evening in march and we got along soo well...he lives quite locally too which was good.our friendship then grew into a relationship and we started dating and going out together,i was sooo happy and i fell for him in a massive way & he said he felt the same way too.to me,he was a girls dream come true...he was kind,caring,fit,good-looking & gentle and i loved him to bits!,i still do,and i thought we'd be together forever.
something that i did find a bit strange though was i hadn't met his family yet or heard my boyfriend talk much about them.i would question him about his family but he seemed to get a bit funny about it and when i mentioned about meeting his family he said something along the lines of ''they're a bit strange,you might not like them'' (or something like that anyway).that got me thinking and i though prehaps they lived in a run-down place or something,or they wern't very nice people and i thought my b/f could be ashamed to let me meet them.i thought to myself to give him time & he'll see that i'm an understanding & nice person and hoped that he would soon come out and tell me what the problem was (thinking it was about what i've just mentioned).
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Take the advice of everyone on here- and LEAVE THIS BOY NOW! Not to mention the fact that he hid his religion & family from you, and you from them, but TRUST ME- the heartache would be ALOT easier now, than later. The religion is DEEPLY ingrained in him, and he will at some point give you the ultimatum to be a witness or he will break it off. OR, he will get kicked out because he is with you- and if he isn't mentally ready to leave- that will cause severe depression & guilt. Drop him now. Trust me- all the love in the world cannot make up for the heartache of the roads ahead.
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oral sex
by lilpumpkin inwould someone who was a jw all his life (24 years) know he's not suppose to be giving/receiving oral sex?
is it possible he might not have heard about this rule?
does it not apply if the person is disfellowshipped?
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I was told by a "JUDICIAL COMMITTEE" (ooooooooooohh) that oral sex was frowned upon by witnesses, because it bordered on unclean, but what you do behind your own private doors is your own business, but they wouldn't recommend it, or suggest it be topic of conversation out in service :-)
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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!
by Perfection Seeker ini know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.
my mom was at the district convention last weekend.
i had found this site shortly before she went.
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THANKS! Heading to that website now! :-)
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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!
by Perfection Seeker ini know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.
my mom was at the district convention last weekend.
i had found this site shortly before she went.
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HI! Thanks, yet one more time, for the excellent advice! I can't locate the Randy Watters page, but from what you say- its something I'd really like to read! I guess to me, instead of getting my family out- I just want to be out & not hassled. Thanks! :-)
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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!
by Perfection Seeker ini know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.
my mom was at the district convention last weekend.
i had found this site shortly before she went.
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You guys are so cool! Is there a limit to how many times I can say that? :-) Someone posted "Tell your mom you left the organization, not Jehovah" I have told her this MANY times, and she always says- in the bible- there has ALWAYS been one TRUE organization. There was only ONE ark that saved people, blah blah blah. They have a concrete wall up, and there is no way to tear it down. I guess I really don't want to have her leave "THE TRUTH" because she is happy, and it works for her. BUT, doing what I am doing works for me- I can respect her- but she can't respect me. Oh well, I have till next Saturday to plan my next strategy! Thanks! MELISSA
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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!
by Perfection Seeker ini know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.
my mom was at the district convention last weekend.
i had found this site shortly before she went.
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You guys are so cool :-) Someday, in a year or so, if the system lasts-lol- I will be just like you- helping some newbie figure things out :-) Funny, when my mom left- I was hot- but time & reading these posts makes it less important. Thanks once again! Send me the bill! :-)
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Question for JWS: What About Graveside Visitation?
by Room 215 inhere's a question for those who keep current with ever-changing jw policy: what is the wtbts's current policy with regard to visitation of gravesides, bringing flowers, etc.
by widows, widowers, grieving relatives.
it used to be something of which they took a dim view, and impugned the spirituality of anyone who made a practice of it: ``let the dead bury the dead,'' and all that.
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In my congregation- they said why would you visit a grave? Not like the person can see you or hear you or benefit from you going? Why decorate the graveside- they are "sleeping" not looking down from heaven to see you do it. Personally, my dad is creamated- and in an urn on my moms shelf- but if he was in a grave- would be nice to go- and just reflect or cry. I've been "out" since 1995 mentally- so not sure what the "new light" is or even the old light. With me- hard to know which was the Organization or jus the elders in my hall. They had rules & opinions on EVERYTHING!